The Big Interview: Professor Richard Thompson
Since his 2004 landmark paper, the 鈥榤icroplastics鈥 field has grown exponentially

鈥淲e don鈥檛 yet know how long it takes plastic to degrade in the natural environment. We鈥檝e only been mass producing plastic for around 60 years and the likelihood is that all of the conventional plastics we鈥檝e ever made are still with us on the planet, unless they鈥檝e been incinerated.鈥
鈥淔rom a distance it is very clear that ours is a blue planet, but as we move closer, we see that the surface of our oceans and our seas are strewn with marine debris,鈥 he says as we walk along the sandy cove at North Bay, on the edge of Salcombe. 鈥淓ven here, on what is a clean beach, I鈥檝e noticed small bits of blue and red microplastic, particularly near the tide line. And that鈥檚 the point. The plastics issue is not just about an enormous pile of rubbish on a heavily contaminated beach somewhere in the Pacific. It鈥檚 the fact that it鈥檚 on every shoreline. As our work has so clearly shown, we find microplastics in every sample of beach sand, whether it鈥檚 in Australia, Asia, Europe, North or South America. We鈥檝e looked in the deep sea, in Arctic ice, in the gut of hundreds of fish from the English Channel, and we鈥檝e found microplastic contamination everywhere.鈥
鈥淔rom the local rotary club to major international organisations, the level of interest in plastic pollution is unprecedented,鈥 Richard says. 鈥淎nd I think that is because plastics are so readily visible. At a basic level, we the public can see the things that are accumulating as litter and we realise that they are everyday items 鈥 the drinks bottles and crisp packets 鈥 and it feels so unnecessary. So there is a story here of an environmental challenge that I think is solvable and that the public are keen to act upon.鈥
鈥淢y scientific background is marine ecology, and a lot of my interests are in how you apply this knowledge of the natural world to its interactions with humans in order to get a better outcome,鈥 he says. 鈥淥ne of the pieces of work we鈥檝e been involved with over a number of years is looking at hard structures built in the marine environment, whether a wind farm or harbour or coastal defence, and how they are colonised by marine life. What the research has shown is that there tends to be an abundance of organisms on these artificial habitats but there鈥檚 low diversity, so we鈥檝e been looking at how we might alter that ecological outcome. Today, we鈥檙e meeting to discuss the redevelopment of a quay in the estuary, and how we can consider the issue of biodiversity.鈥
鈥淚鈥檇 been using Plymouth Sound as a base for fieldwork for a number of years because Southampton doesn鈥檛 have the sort of rocky shores I needed,鈥 Richard says. 鈥淚 was also working with the Marine Biological Association, which is one of a number of historic and world-leading research institutions in the city, so taken together, it felt a very logical step for me to move here.鈥
As a mature student, Richard was determined to use his time most productively, and, after writing a number of letters to different organisations, he earned the chance to spend his first summer vacation volunteering at a marine laboratory in Australia. For his second, he organised an expedition with two other students to East Africa, looking at commercially collected sea shells.
鈥淚 saw that there were opportunities that I hadn鈥檛 had before,鈥 says Richard. 鈥淎nd what I really took from university was the interaction with people who were studying the environment from different aspects. They were motivated and passionate, and that came through from the lectures and projects we did. You get a bug for that passion, and that was certainly quite different to working in a business environment where the main motivation is profit.
鈥淏ut at that stage I really wasn鈥檛 convinced that it was going to be a career for me. It鈥檚 such a competitive field, and it probably didn鈥檛 help that I was looking for PhDs in tropical areas, because that was what excited me. I applied for a number and didn鈥檛 get any of them.鈥
After graduating, Richard worked as a labourer on building sites for a year, before finally landing a PhD in marine ecology at the University of Liverpool in 1992. Based at their marine station on the Isle of Man, Richard鈥檚 work was to be on the interactions and dynamics between microscopic algae and molluscs, such as limpets. And it was during this time that the issue of marine plastic pollution began to coalesce in his mind.
He recalls: 鈥淚鈥檇 first become aware of the issue of plastic accumulating as litter on beaches during my time at Newcastle, when I conducted some experiments on biodegradable plastic bags, one of which I still have today and is perfectly usable! But it was during my PhD that I started to get involved in beach cleans. As I was training to be a scientist, I was interested in the data, and in the first year, we collected 20,000 items, all of which I logged on a spreadsheet. And two things struck me. The first was the scale: we were using a pickup truck to collect the sacks of litter and take them back to the lab, and after the first run we鈥檇 maybe gone 10 metres along the beach 鈥 and there were 15 more beaches to go. I couldn鈥檛 believe how far the rubbish stretched; we could barely scratch the surface! On an island in the middle of the Irish Sea, which doesn鈥檛 have a particularly big population, we鈥檇 got all of this stuff, and that was shocking.
鈥淭he other thing that struck me was that the data sheets completely neglected what was the most abundant type of plastic 鈥 the really small pieces, the fragments. The volunteers would go for a large trophy item 鈥 a tyre, fishing net, a crate 鈥 but would ignore the smaller stuff. And that set me the challenge I wanted to address: what was the smallest piece of plastic on the beach? It was a question we didn鈥檛 answer until 2004.鈥
Lost at Sea: Where Is All the Plastic? was that answer. Funded by a Leverhulme Trust grant, and published in Science over a Bank Holiday weekend, when it landed, it changed everything. By the time Richard got into his office on the Tuesday, he had received dozens messages from journalists, and before that morning was out, he鈥檇 recorded interviews for the Today programme, and the BBC World Service.
It transformed a sideline into the main focus of his career, something that has accelerated with every passing year. And, through successive research grants and subsequent publications, it has catapulted Richard into the realm of policy and public engagement. He鈥檚 made a number of appearances before government select committees, including the one for environment that paved the way for legislation preventing the use of microbeads in wash-off cosmetics. He was invited to speak at senator John Kerry鈥檚 鈥極ur Ocean鈥 conference in Washington DC in 2014, as well as other events organised by the United Nations and the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development. And he also contributed to The Foresight Future of the Sea report, published by the Government Office for Science, which explored the role that the UK鈥檚 scientific and technological expertise can play in understanding and providing solutions to the long-term issues affecting the sea.
鈥淥ver recent years, the world has really woken up to the global threat posed by marine litter,鈥 Richard says. 鈥淏ut while recognising the problem is one thing, increasing knowledge and changing behaviours are a far greater challenge. And my concern is that there is a risk that people鈥檚 thirst for change might lead to knee-jerk reactions, and however well-intended they could have unintended consequences. Certainly nationally, if not internationally, we have policy, the public, and industry all agreeing that there is a problem and that we need to do something about it. We know the direction of travel towards potential solutions, but charting the course is much less clear. And I don鈥檛 think we can get there just by banning plastics 鈥 we have to use them more responsibly. We need guidance, and we need that to come from the academic community. The challenge is bringing together different disciplines 鈥 environmental, behavioural and material scientists, economists, and legal experts.鈥
This commitment to interdisciplinary working has been 鈥 and will continue to be 鈥 key for Richard. He is quick to pay tribute to Steve Rowland, Professor of Organic Geochemistry, a 鈥榤entor鈥 figure and critical friend throughout his time at Plymouth. And he also reserves huge praise for Dr Sabine Pahl, Associate Professor in Psychology, who has introduced social and behavioural science particularly around perception and motivation for change and human wellbeing in the blue environment.
鈥淪abine brings a really synergistic behavioural dimension to the plastics work, and I don鈥檛 think any other institution has that same strength,鈥 he says. 鈥淲hat we are doing with colleagues is extending our reach into other disciplines, and working to secure funding for a centre that brings together those perspectives in order to supply the evidence to inform industry and policy.鈥
I think the work we have done at the University has had a really major role in raising awareness of this topic. There are a number of independent accounts that cite the early work we did, particularly the description of microplastics and their accumulation in the environment, was a tipping point in the level of interest in the whole topic in the academic community and wider public. Sure, there had been work on plastics in the environment before; some in the late 60s and 70s, but only one or two papers were published per year. We are now seeing in excess of 200 papers just on microplastics.
Professor Richard Thompson OBE FRS
Director of the Marine Institute
鈥淭his is one of only two species of cowry that you find on our beaches,鈥 he says, gently cleaning off the sand with his thumb. 鈥淲e often as a family look for them, but you have to get your eye in as they can be difficult to see. Its scientific name is Trivia, which my university lecturers used to use for a good pun. In Scotland they call them John O'Groats, and my mother-in-law has collected the shells since she was a child.鈥